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the end of the year, concerns about whether the capital gains tax will rise. he says the fiscal cliff shouldn't be a big issue, and if businessmen got into the room they could solve the problem much faster than congress. >>> adding his tuppence, he says they'll have to get used to it and the fiscal cliff is one of the reasons. >> we have structural influences that speak to the deleveraging, speak to aging demographics of the boomers, that speak to globalization and technology, all of which have been labor and job unfriendly. >> joining us with his views, the senior european economist at jeffries international. before we talk about europe, i'm just wondering if bill gross is right there, what kind of impact is that going to have for everybody else? >> well, in terms of the fiscal cliff, it is having an impact on the u.s. and driving growth there. the impact on europe is probably quite limited for the time being. most certainly europe has its own problems to worry about. we're still kind of waiting for this to be resolved. i think for the time being the problems are separate. but ultima
of course and the prospect of increased taxes as we get closer to the fiscal cliff. looks like everybody's taxes are going up no matter how this thing is comes out. consumer spending accounts for more than 2/3 of economic output. especially important at this time of year of course when a lot of sectors in all of these areas have been struggling, here is a bit of good news. martha: okay. take it. bill: not a lot. if you're driving on the road, thanks to shrinking demand manned lower fuel prices gas is sinking like a stone. a drop of 34 cents in the past month. in st. louis, drivers paying just over $3. even l.a. is paying 3.68. which is below four bucks where they have been for a very long time. even further drops expected in the coming days. martha: a devastating loss this morning. jennie rivera, the mexican american singer on the verge of crossing over to this country in u.s. popularity is presumed to have been killed when a private plane crashed in monterrey, mexico. authorities have not confirmed her debt. her relatives say they have few doubts she was on board that plane. she was hea
. everybody is looking at the fiscal cliff, tax the rich more for the fiscal. okay. we've got that. but we are definitely going to tax the rich just a little bit more come january 1 to pay for obamacare, specifically taxes on capital gains, dividends going up to just a little bit more, just a little bit more on january 1, and also a little bit more on income of those people making more than $200,000 a year. so we have defined rich down to $200,000 a year. it was a lot higher than that, but guaranteed january 1, a little bit more for obamacare. >> steve: when you say a little bit more, you mean like 3 or 4%, which adds up. >> it does. it's 3.8% extra as a capital gains tax. >> steve: that's a done deal. that's baked into the health care reform? >> that's it. there is no discussion about it. that was passed two years ago. this is going to happen. then you've got maybe a little bit more on income and other forms of income if we approach this fiscal cliff and the president gets his way. he is digging in his heels on higher tax rates on upper income earners. that will be a little bit more from
households. mostly because of fiscal cliff concerns and higher tax concerns. that said, i agree with ken. this is a larger issue that nobody is willing to talk about, the third rail of american politics -- entitlements. we can't raise taxes enough to compensate for what we need in our democrat kbrafk situation on entitlements. these are fundamental issues. it's important to understand that not only have we seen investment decline and the composition of employment. the manufacturing sector not showing big gains. the investment side of the equation not showing big gains. that shows delays in hiring and defer meant by the fiscal cliff. it's clear that we are at a fork in the road. we can choose to enhance our role in the global economy by taking the situation and making responsible decisions or by deliberately slitting our own economic throats we'll lose what credibility we have left. i think we are at the fork in the road now. >> john, instilling confidence would be a big role for washington. you know, there isn't a great deal of confidence in washington. there is less in congress. at this
ceos in that meeting agreed the tax rates for the wealthy have to rise as part of any fiscal cliff deal. he joins us exclusively later on "the closing bell." stay tuned. [ male announcer ] this december, remember -- ♪ you can stay in and like something... ♪ [ car alarm deactivates ] ♪ ...or you can get out there with your family and actually like something. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on, offering some of our best values of the year. this is the pursuit of perfection. you won't just find us online, you'll also find us in person, with dedicated support teams at over 500 branches nationwide. so when you call or visit, you can ask for a name you know. because personal service starts with a real person. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our support teams are nearby, ready to help. it's no wonder so many investors are saying... i'm with scottrade. >>> one of the most bizarre man hunts in recent memory is coming to an end in central america, we think. wealth editor robert frank has the latest details on the arrest of john mcafee. >> y
we haven't reached any agreement on the fiscal cliff, we don't know what next year's tax structure is going to look like, how has that impacted caterpillar's plan? the deadlines of the fiscal cliff is driving us into our corners and i talk every day to our customers around this country, around the world sometimes for that matter, and in this country and they are scared to death what happens in january. nobody knows. going over the cliff is not an option we stare in the face. they'll figure out a way to get us through this in one form or fashion. there's outlandish guesses on both sides. i don't think we should risk it at all. if we do go over the downside is capex for next year, what could or should we do if everything slows down, i don't want to have to face and decide that. our outlook for 2013 is morms what 2012 is. that's the best we can see and they're three weengz away from the beginning of the year. >> i'll look forward to the day when you're in here again and can sit here for two hours and we'll run v.o. of big caterpillar equipment and talk about what's going on in china a
$800 billion in tax revenue in the fiscal cliff negotiations. president obama has said there will be no deal unless taxes are raised on the wealthiest americ americans. but staunch conservatives don't want any kind of new taxes. that's where speaker boehner's job gets really tough. on piers morgan tonight newt gingrich said if all else fails, go over the cliff. >> i think that no deal is better than a bad deal. i think going off this cliff is less dangerous than letting things build up for a year or two years to an even bigger cliff. i think that the president clearly has staked out a position of nonseriousness. and i think that it's very difficult for the house republicans right now to find any practical way to get his attention. so, he just won an election. he is feeling very good about himself. he is posturing brilliantly, putting the republicans in a corner. they need to relax. they don't have an election until november 2014. >> senior congressional correspondent dana bash joins me now. dana, can we expect fire woworkt the meeting this morning? >> reporter: possibly
down payment to avoid what people are calling the fiscal cliff, the automatic tax increases for every american or the beginning of the 10 years automated cuts that are supposed to happen but i don't think that anything is going to happen immediately. it has to happen over the long-term chsm is an acknowledgment of how difficult the sticking points are and challenges are. >> meredith, righting for "roll call," covering the fiss -- fiscal cliff discussions on capitol hill. thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> john boehner has sent president obama a counterour. a spokesman for house speaker boehner declined to share details of the offer but said the proposal would solve our looming debt crisis and create american jobs. we're still waiting for the white house to identify what spending cuts the white house will make and the longer the white house slow walk this is policy the close we get to fiscal cliff. we'll hear what senate leaders had to say today they spoke for 15 minutes at the capitol. >> it's time to see if the president is willing to make any cuts at all and whether
growth. we passed a bill a few months ago that prevents the fiscal cliff by saying no taxes will be increased, a bipartisan bill. all of those votes, were criticized for. they called us right wing nuts and extremists. we explain to the people what we want to do to get our economy moving again, but also to control spending in washington. and we were reelected with a mandate not only to continue to be in charge of the house, but to be the line of defense against the radical administration. i think we know what our task is. all but, for candidates -- all but four of the 30 candidates elected are talking about joining rsc. they were elected on these principles we believe in. i am comfortable with where we are positioned now, but i know it is going to be a tough ride ahead. we would not be doing this if it was not a mandate the people sent us to go do. >> something on all of our minds is the fiscal cliff. i would be remiss if i did not ask you both to weigh in on it in the following way. first, what is going on that we do not understand? number two, what should happen? number 3,
, going over the fiscal cliff will trigger huge hikes in the death tax. >> our wealth editor robert frank breaks it down now. >> thanks, bill. the estate tax could go up even more and become a big problem for any kind of cliff deal. let's take a look. the current tax is around 30%. only those worth $5 million or more have to file. if we go off the cliff, it will shoot to 55%. anyone with an estate with $1 million or more will have to file. that will cost many more in the estate tax. many prefer the tax is abolished. obama wants a 45% rate and $3.5 million cutoff. that's midway between today's rates and the old rate. now the problem is even some democrats are siding with republicans. they say they want to keep the current rates. so all sides here remain very far apart. this matters because wealthy families need to rewrite their wills, their charity plans. and for the country there are hundreds of billions of dollars of taxes at stake. it's also a hugely symbolic tax. the left says these estate taxes are important to curb family dynasties. and they also call it the paris hilton tax. the rig
that you think that going over the fiscal cliff is in president obama's best interest. >> i really believe that. frankly, the lack of credible solutions and backtracking like the amount of spending. doubling the taxes he wants raised and the fact he wants stimulus package that he knew nobody was going to support here. doesn't look like he's trying to engage in ernest discussions, which leads me to believe he wants us to go over the cliff and be able to blame the republicans and maybe it's more about politics. >> congress people themselves said the election was a referendum on the president's ideas. part of that was the very clear message of tax hikes on the top 2%. >> that's great, but he didn't win my district and i did. so my mandate is something else. >> good appoint. >> if we only represent our own slices we'll never get anything done. >> you hit the nail on the head. what we're being asked is the republican conference, jump off the cliff alone. if this is going to be a deal, we've got to grab hands together and jump off together. they have got to put the long-term obligations on the t
, the fiscal cliff, the dividend tax rate, a power company ceo will tell us about his biggest concern if a deal doesn't get done by the end of the year. >>> also, what the ceo of walmart thinks about that, as well. he had really explosive data. mike duke last night. we'll bring it to you. "squawk box" is coming back. what's next? he's going to apply testosterone to his underarm. axiron, the only underarm treatment for low t, can restore testosterone levels back to normal in most men. axiron is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18. axiron can transfer to others through direct contact. women, especially those who are or who may become pregnant, and children should avoid contact where axiron is applied as unexpected signs of puberty in children or changes in body hair or increased acne in women may occur. report these signs and symptoms to your doctor if they occur. tell your doctor about all medical conditions and medications. do not use if you have prostate or breast cancer. serious side effects could include increased risk of prostate cancer; worsening prostate symptoms; decreased spe
: telling agencies to watch for massive spending cuts from going over the fiscal cliff and warped the business exectives the economy could take another hit if the republicans decide to extend the middle class tax cut to avoid the cliff for now. then come back with more leverage. to tie it to a hike in the debt ceiling. >> we are 23409 going play that game next year. if congress in any way suggests that they are going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes, take us to brink of default again, i will not play that game. >> republicans held their own meeting with small business owners denying they're trying to punt. >> i'll be here and available at any moment to sit down with the president to get serious abouting the problem. >> they noted the president has not scheduled any meetings with the g.o.p. leaders in weeks. not offered any counterproposal to boehner's plan from last week. >> a balanced approach the president has been asking for. now we need response from the white house. >> reporter: they continue to insist the impediment to the deal is boehner's tax revenue is not enough
. when you hear about the concern about the fiscal cliff, it is not the tax rates. i do not buy that. i do not think we need to increase the tax rates. >> if you go over and the tax rates go up, all of that goes away. >> we should not do it. we should resolve this. it depends on whether we then do something about it in the next month or two after it. we set ourselves on a path to do something within 30, 60, or 90 days and we are clear about that. people do not believe we will do it unless we do something. that is our worries. >> as part of that second stage, does the top rate have to end at 39.6? are there ways democrats can accept something in between bush and clinton if it was coupled with a reduction in the ability of people to take certain deductions or credits? would you see a top rate below 39.6 when the dust settles? >> i do not want to second-guess what we may decide. i think we should go to 39%. that is not what we should be debating. i do not think it is instead of >> it is in addition to. >> yes. having that debate now suggests that that is all we have to do. most people who
of taxes are kicking in automatically. there is so much focus on fiscal cliff and bush tax cuts that would expire. you have investment tax. this tax. three different ones. medicare surtax, that will be taken, everybody's taxes are going up no matter what happens, right? >> they're going up through obamacare. throw the fiscal cliff which could potentially raise taxes dramatically. that is big reason we see a lot of consumers aren't spending as much. a lot of companies are not hiring. you're not seeing unemployment fall. we don't know. this $63 again doesn't sound like a lot of money. i'm not going to be surprised next couple years if we see a lot more of these fees really sneaking up on us. i love the administration, say most likely will go away unless congress extends it. how much do we see it could end up being twice as much. martha: you can't see congress going, oh, my gosh, 2017, time to bring back the $63, it's done, not going to happen? thinking around the holiday thinking but know that will not happen. martha: anyone can find an example where congress said, you know what, we shouldn'
to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff at the end of this month. a series of tax cuts and spending cuts set to kick in just 26 shopping days until the fiscal cliff. >> brian: less working days. >> steve: that's right. house republicans say there will be no deal if tax ritz go up and the obama administration says it's ready to go thelma and louise style over the cliff on january 1. if that's the case, wendell goler live at the white house with what we know is going on behind the scenes. anything happening? >> steve, the president and house speaker john boehner talked on the phone yesterday, but they agreed not to characterize their conversation. so it's unclear how much progress they made. from the outside, it does seem they've moved a bit closer with boehner now agreeing to raise tax collection from the wealthy, though not by raising tax rates. >> we've got to cut spending and i believe to put revenues on the table. the revenues we're putting on the table will come from, guess who, the rich! there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes, and have the same people pay more of their mone
cliff. you'll raise some taxes, yes, that's true, you'll cut defense and some human services. this is the only way we'll have a significant bite out of this deficit. i think the market is going to like this. they say no right now, but when they see that this government is taking on the deficit in a serious way i think they will like it >> you don't think going over the cliff is armageddon? >> this is just nonsense, absolutely not. this is a bipartisan deal that was made. now both parties are trying to welch on their commitments. i think that's a mistake. >> steve, ben bernanke said today if we do go over the fiscal cliff, even if it's for a short period of time, it's going to be very costly and they do not have the tools to basically dig us out of it. do you believe if we go over the fiscal cliff it won't be as easy as the governor is suggesting? >> we're in trouble anyway this quarter and the next quarter and putting on taxes of any kind would be the wrong thing to do. sometimes the governor is a former physician, current physician, and you learn first go don't harm the pati
to go off the fiscal cliff unless republicans give in and raise taxes up to 39.6% on the wealthiest americans, did he hesitate in his response at all? no? >> if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go off the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. if there is no agreement that doesn't involve rates going up. >> gretchen: is that what the discussion is about? if you're watching the main stream media, it's about tax, tax, tax, tax. why are we taxing so much? because we really do have a spending problem. >> steve: or a deep hole. >> brian: i thought it was interesting. does geithner ever speak and make you feel better? all he does is -- i have a sense that it's something terrible is about to happen. having said that and this communication ability aside, i'm stunned to see him playing politics. he's flat out playing politics. he added if the president doesn't get his own way and get the power action undependentsed power to raise the debt limit and take it away from congress, that's also a nonstarter. since when is getting into that and saying if we don't raise taxes
for the last three years and you probably think that the fiscal cliff would not address these things. >> gretchen: don't you recall that the president said he had no interest in speaking to republicans until they agree to the tax increase on the top two percent wage earners . so that really doesn't. maybe he and jay carny hasn't had meetings. maybe they are not on the same page or maybe it is on purpose. to send out a different message. >> steve: the message in the legislate in the great state of michigan was loud and clear. both houses passed bills that makes michigan the 24th right to work state. it would ban manddatory unidues and this is a major blow to organized labor. it is home to united autoworker and it is ford and gm and chrysler and this changes a lot for the people in michigan. >> gretchen: this is a huge epic fight. the idea that michigan is a right to work state. indiana did it 10 months ago as you know. but there is a gop house and i believe the senate is controllled stunningly by republicans and look at this revolt now. this is similar to what we saw in wisconsin . wh
over the fight in the fiscal cliff. americans face crushing tax hikes and severe spending cuts in 27 days if democrats and republicans cannot come together on a deal. by the way, congress breaks for the holidays in ten days. slash that number. in an interview with bloomberg news, the president made it crystal clear he's not about to blink on the issue of tax hikes for the wealthiest americans. >> we'll have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> white house correspondent dan lothian joins us live from washington this morning. very nice to see you, dan. >> good to see you. >> here's the deal. we have republicans pitted against democrats. now we understand there are issues amongst republicans as well. >> that's right. they're in a tough spot here. they don't want to be in left in a position of being blamed for the fiscal cliff. you're seeing a division between house members and senate members. the reason for this is mainly over the 800 billion in new tax revenue. this was part of john boehner and plan. those tea party-backed co
is a fiscal cliff and concern about rising taxes in those consumer sentiment numbers creeping in and those higher income households pulled back on spending expectations on big ticket items of vehicles and appliances and consumer durables. that's significant. in terms of sandy, one thing i would note is on unemployment survey it was taken on november 5th, the day before the election. remember, there was a nor'easter a few days later that compounded some of the disruptions related to sandy and many of the unemployment insurance claims because people couldn't get out to make the unemployment claims didn't occur until the peak in the middle of november. i think the timing of this survey really did matter in this. steve made a good point on earlier than usual thanksgiving maybe swamping some of the retail effects that we would have seen from sandy because of the seasonals and the way the data was captured. i don't think underlying economy is that much stronger with downward revisions we saw in previous months. i do think the fact that timing and nor'easter was also in here and that did down air
boehner speaking by telephone on tuesday changing fiscal cliff proposals. reducing new tax revenue from 1.6 to $1.4 trillion over five years. but they're jockeying on who should spell out the specifics on the spending cuts. walmart's ceo mike duke expressed concerns about the fiscal cliff. >> the week before the election, only one-fourth, 25% of our core customers even knew what fiscal cliff meant. okay? one week after the election, it was up to 75%. now these same customers, 15% of our customers are telling us, this discussion about fiscal cliff will affect what they spend on christmas. >> that's a fascinating read on -- >> i wonder who's doing the surveying? how is that occurring? >> greeters? >> i would be curious how they know those percentages. do they ask people at the -- >> yeah. >> and can you define the fiscal cliff? i don't mean to question the methodology, it's interesting. >> just curious. >> i think that when i was in washington, i got the sense that there were just a lot of people there who actually thought romney was going to win. and there would be no fiscal cliff because
at the beginning of the fiscal cliff because they can most afford it. we can't have $127 billion of tax increases and spending cuts just a little bit from those that can most afford it. >> heather: thank you so much for joining us. we'll see what happens. >> gregg: george zimmerman files a lawsuit against nbc accusing the network of editing the 911 call before the death of trayvon martin. >> heather: a little girl waits her turn to meet santa but little did she know one of her christmas wishes would be granted on the spot. >>> daddy? the capital one cash rewards card gives you 1% cash back on all purchases, plus a 50% annual bonus. and everyone...but her likes 50% more cash. but i'm upping my game. do you want a candy cane? yes! do you want the puppy? yes! do you want a tricycle? yes! do you want 50 percent more cash? no! ♪ festive. [ male announcer ] the capital one cash rewards card gives you 1% cash back on every purchase plus a 50% annual bonus on the cash you earn. it's the card for people who like more cash. what's in your wallet? i've been a superintendentle for 30 some years at many dif
cliff that could raise taxes by year's end. we begin with a report from newshour congressional correspondent kwame holman. >> we're going to have to see the rates on the top two percent go up. we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> reporter: in his first interview since the election, president obama rejected a proposal from house speaker john boehner. he spoke on bloomberg television. >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. i'm happy to entertain other ideas that the republicans may present. but we are not going to simply cut our way to prosperity or to cut our way out of this deficit problem that we have. we're going to need more revenues. in order to do that, that starts with higher rates for the folks at the top. >> reporter: the president did say today he would consider lowering rates again for the top two percent next year as part of a broader tax overhaul. the house republican plan envisions $2.2 trillion in deficit reductions over the next decade. $800 billion would come from new revenues but with no hike in tax rates f
the fiscal cliff negotiations closely for what could happen next to this tax goody next year. >> here's the question i'm hearing people ask, if we go off the cliff here, how big a hit will we take on taxs? stand by, because i'm about to give you the closest answer i possibly can. to help me with that is laurie montgomery, she is the fiscal policy reporter for the washington post. so, laurie, welcome to you here. and your paper this morning, you ran through a couple of tax scenarios which were pretty palletable so we want to show our viewers what you ran through with, of course, the help from the tax policy center. let me run through two. we'll look at this first one. so everybody take a look at this graphic. this is scenario number one, married couple, two kids, one in college, combined income of $137,000. you see the numbers here, first under the democrats' plan, passed by the senate, not by the house, they would see their taxes rise 2500 bucks a year. just below that, the republican plan, passed by the house in august, would raise the couple's taxes by $4,000. and if we go off the c
of negotiations on the so-called fiscal cliff. disagreements on taxing the wealthy remains one of the sticking points between the two sides. this is about five minutes. >> good morning, everyone. this is not a progress report because there is no progress to report. when it comes to the fiscal cliff that is threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. eight days ago, secretary geithner kaine your to offer a plan that had twice the tax hikes that the president campaigned on. it had more stimulus spending than it had in cuts, and it had an indefinite and infinite increase in the debt limit, like forever. four days ago, we offered a serious proposal based on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then, there has been no counteroffer from the white house. instead, reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to push our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. instead of reforming the tax code and cutting spending, the president wants to raise tax rates. even if the president got the tax rate hike he wan
americans who can see their income taxes go up similar to the photo-op, the fiscal cliff photo-op of yesterday which was the president meeting with the middle class family. now to jobs. we have something of a surprise report. jobs turned out to be up up. the jobless rate is down and the word from the government is that sandy had no substantive effect on the data. here are the numbers. unemployment down to 7.7%. the economy added 146,000 jobs, not great but good. a third of that came from the retail sector. 53,000 jobs added. professional and business services up 43,000. leisure and hospitality up. construction, though, lost 20,000 jobs. we should note that jobs numbers were revise d downward, though, for september and october. in september it was revised from 148,000 gain to 238,000. went from 138,000 to 132,000. this month, the 7.7 is a full point lower than where we were at this time last year. so what are we supposed to make of these numbers and does the november report provide us a real sense of where this recovery is right now? let's bring in the man we like to bring in ev
this before, haven't we? what do average americans want to see in a fiscal cliff solution. we've got the exclusive results of our exclusive cnbc all-america economic survey. >>> now to everybody's all-american, sue herera standing by at the nyse. >> you're sweet, ty. thanks. >>> we're a little bit on the downside. we really kind of retraced a little bit on the dow jones industrial average. previous to this we were solidly in the green in all three of the major market indices. the dow now down 14 1/2 points. nasdaq up eight. the s&p is down just a fraction. of course we are also watching apple on the back of yesterday's drop. the stock today is traded up $4.82. that's just under a percentage move to the plus side. it's rebounding, still at bear market territory, however. it has lost over $50 billion in market cap over the past few days alone. our bob pisani joins me here on the floor of the nyse. what are you hearing from traders? the market is drifting a little bit. the focus is on apple. there seems to be a little bit of enthusiasm that it can come back to the up side. >> we were up
the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. again, there's no prospect in an agreement that doesn't involve the rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest. all those americans get a tax cut under the framework under the first $250,000 of their income. in some sense, it's a tax cut for all americans. it's just for people who make more than that, we're going to ask them to pay a modestly amount more. >> that's hard to understand given how much going over the fiscal cliff would hurt the economy. why is going over the fiscal cliff worth it for just this one component? if you can get the other components, why wouldn't you take that? >> good question. thanks for asking. what we're trying to do is put in place a comprehensive balance set of fiscal reforms that put us back on the path to living within our means and create room for investing to make the economy stronger, make sure we're protecting medicare for future generations, and forcing the government to use the taxpayers' resources more wisely. in that context, you have to have a significant amount of revenues. we don't see a way of doing
are concerned about the fiscal cliff, because of taxes. we are saving, absolutely. we're holding on any types of expansion. in an economy that's like desperate for jobs, that shouldn't be the case. there's really no politics when you have to balance the budget like we do in business every day. it's the same here. i would like lawmakers in congress to compromise and make a settlement, avoid the fiscal cliff, and move on. >> welcome back to our sal mission critical rise above d.c. coverage. i'm jim cramer. becky quick. we're coming to you from capitol hill. and we're here encouraging lawmakers to rise above partisan politics and negotiate a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. joining us now senator ron johnson, republican from wisconsin. thanks so much for coming. >> good morning. >> i'm getting worried here. because clock is ticking. should we allow a vacation without legislation? >> no, i'm happy to stay here until we get this thing fixed. understand how absurd this process is. we've done this with the debt ceiling. with the super committee. now we're back here again where we've got two people, a
? >> oh, i don't agree. i think that the fiscal cliff and it is a cliff, on january 1 withholding taxes go up to the tune of $400 billion. >> not necessarily. >> it would have a very negative effect on the economy. according to the legislation they would, jared. >> they would not. >> jared, you have to -- >> let me make a point. the treasury secretary can decide if he or she believes a deal sl imminent not to adjust withholding tables. very important. >> i'm talking about no deal and we go off the cliff. >> we go off and stay off. >> it's $400 billion. we have a lot of things to do with regard to our debt ceiling, and my feeling is no one really believes the united states of america is going to default on its debt even if it lapses. we're dealing with different things. one is real and substantive and the other is psychological. >> i really disagree. >> i know you do. >> we could have a good discussion about this if we had more time. the idea that if the debt ceiling lapses, peter, that means that we can no longer borrow from credit markets and can't finance our debt. >> we're doing most of
announcing special dividend hikes in an effort to avoid higher taxes if we go over the fiscal cliff. more than 100 companies have announced more than $20 billion in payments in q4. let's get you up to date on big ones for today. shoe carnival declaring a special cash dividend of $1 a share. america's biggest home builder dr horton accelerating all of its 2013 dividend payments into this year. jb hunt transfor the pulling forward its quarterly dividend into this year as well instead of february next year. the move is on in a big way. >>> mixed news on the economic front. the november unemployment rate falling to 7.7%, the lowest since december of '08. beware of the cliff. house speaker john boehner today saying no progress has been made on resolving the looming fiscal cliff. more morial, former mayor of new orleans. we'll talk about the giants and the saints at the end of the segment. you must be encouraged by the unemployment rate coming down and the growth in jobs despite several headwind in the economy. >> it's better news. it's 33 months of continued job growth but make no mistake abou
. that makes no difference whatsoever. forget this fiscal cliff deal. the moral is, you raise tax rates and down goes tax revenue. look at what happened in britain. this raised the top tax rate to 50% and two-thirds of the millionaires disappeared in the next tax year. same things are happening in france. people are leaving. the top tax rate of 75%. same thing had in maryland a few years ago. new millionaires tax. they disappeared. exactly the same thing in california. >> brian: they went to pennsylvania and california. now texas. >> you avoid a high, what they consider a high tax rate. you want to take more money off them, but when you try do it, you don't get more money off them. >> brian: are you disturbed at all, 'cause i know you're a numbers guy, that it seems as though republicans from senator cork tore coburn to coal, seem to be saying, all right, just raise the rate. give the president his trophy so we can get to real cuts, would that bother you? >> yes, it would bother me because this is a spending problem. not a tax problem. if you just give in and pay the higher tax rates or
that gives workers the right to not pay dues. >> steve: washington can't find a solution to the fiscal cliff . but someone who fixed budgets in the past know it is simple. >> if i raise taxes again i will have to do it in two or four years . people are going to leave. >> steve: find out how america's mayor did it straight ahead. straight ahead. feel a cold coming on? gretchen, you will be better in no time. we'll drink to that. >> you will be better in no time and all of my teases will rhyme today. "fox and friends" starts right now. ♪ ♪ "fox and friends". >> steve: ho, ho, hompt look who is here today eric boling. >> gretchen: you get your own personal lurch. >> eric: good to be here. >> steve: you will find out how booze, beer and wine can make you healthier. the news we have all waited for. >> gretchen: yeah, a lot of people waking up with a headache. now it makes sense why i drank so much last night. overnight a developing story. a medical chopper went down last night leaving three people dead. the chopper which is reggistered to rock ford memorial hospital it went down in a field .
of congress as they try to come up with a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. he said he and president obama talked and said it is clear that serious differences remain. republicans want tax cuts and reduced spending on programs. >>> they hopefully will remember this wedding anniversary date. 12/12/12. >> witness the marriage today. >> at courthouses al around the to get married. one couple came to the courthouse found all the bookings in city hall were taken. it is the same month, day and year are considered lucky. >>> today on channel news at five. this is a live look from chopper two. lots of officers. oakland police. told us this is a marijuana grow house. they found 700 plants in and cash. and reporter is just getting to the scene. what we learned about the bust and tied to the grow operation at five. thank you for trusting the news at ktvu. >-.y÷$@y+o3vhpe
a deal to keep us from going off the fiscal cliff. the president says the latest republic offer is out of balance because it extends tax cuts on income of above $250,000. g.o.p. leaders claim they can raise revenue without raising rates by closing loopholes and limiting deductions. but the white house says it's about the rates. ed henry is at the white house tonight. the president claims the republic math does not add up. >> that's right, shep. he met with the nation's governors today. he said behind closed doors that there is a lot at stake not just for the national economy but state by state. some of their budgets could take a major hit if, in fact, the nation goes off the so-called fiscal cliff. his spokesman jay carney was even tougher in going after speaker john boehner's latest proposal in saying it simply doesn't add up. >> we don't know who pays. we don't know what we're talking about in terms of actual legislation to increase revenues. it's magic beans and fairy dust. >> the bottom line is the president and speaker boehner have not spoken now in several days. so there is reall
to be done? >> i totally agree. the thing that's depressing about the fiscal cliff plan, we will change the tax code, change this, a tax on gas to help the energy industry, all this stuff has receded into the mist and all we're trying to do is get a deal and be done with this. it is sad. in the beginning of a second term, you should be trying to do big things. >> politics often gets in the way. these guys agree behind closed doors what should be done but nobody wants to step out on the ledge and say it publicly. >> right. you have a polarized congress. at this point, both sides think the other side is not on the level and they're interested in taking the partisan political position than accomplishing a bipartisan result. the good thing is high skilled immigrants. hard not to find someone on both sides that don't think you should allow folks that have expertise in science and technology into the country. instead of doing it, both sides use it as a lever in the immigration debate and keeps getting spooled up inside that debate and nothing gets done. >> haven't the republicans been passing
dividends trying to beat possible tax hikes and the fiscal cliff uncertainty could lead to an increase in mergers and acquisitions. they look to complete transactions by year end and i made a fool of myself the last hour trying to go all the way through. not doing it anymore. >> we do that all the time here. that's what we have three hours for. >> it was dumb. >> the name fiscal cliff where did that actually come from? >> i don't know. >> bernanke maybe. >> maybe. >> really? >> maybe bernanke. >> that thing really stuck. >> that's a good question. that's good trivia. i'll goog it. >> we've said it's not really. it doesn't happen really. it's more of a ski slope it's not a black diamond slope. it's more advanthan advanced. >> a double blue. >> but not without a lot of moguls. >> dan gilbert is the own of the cleveland cavaliers and the founder of quicken loans and you're the perfect person to have here because you have your finger on so many different things happening in detroit and around the country. let's start with the housing industry this morning because people have been trying to
of the fiscal cliff people in california will pay a boat load in extra taxes, the of calla earners will earn 52% marginal income-tax rate. zynga looking to get into the real game of gambling. and for a gaming license, that would mean gamblers in nevada could put down real money in names like zynga poker. the first day washington state residents conseco cox legally in public and in seattle they are doing that. huge crowds at midnight last night, like the new year's eve celebration according to several witnesses and a few cameras. the only problem is it is still against federal law and that is a problem for growers and sellers. detail people. that is your west coast minute. dennis: no word what this is doing to the productivity rate in washington state. the f h a is in talks eat, housing secretary shaun donovan wraps up his appearance beforee the senate banking committee. cheryl: let's go to peter barnes who is standing by in washington monitoring that hearing out of d.c.. peter: republicans charge that a bailout of the faa is coming and the housing secretary cannot rule it out. shaun donovan say
tribal leaders. the one issue where he's refusing to budge in fiscal cliff issues. >>> the voters passed prop 30, which raises taxes on people who earn more than $250,000 a year. it also increases the sales tax. well, the ucla and der son forecast says because of prop 30 -- anderson forecast says because of prop 30, unemployment will not improve as fast and personal income will be less than expected. but economists say california is still on track for economic growth and more jobs. >>> well, sheriffs in solano county want your help. they are trying to catch vandals who damaged a home known for its holiday displays. every year, bob and linda taylor transform their home in vallejo on glencove road into a christmas wonderland. but this year, someone ripped down some of their lights and dragged them in the streets and they were run over. the taylors say the lights can be fixed an santa claus will still come. >>> another example of a grinch on the loose. what happened at a local christmas tree lot run by boy scouts. >>> i'm gonna go ahead and announcement my retirement. >> katt williams calls
to your calls about the fiscal cliff and whether -- we told president obama is still the best way to go. remember there's some risk here. the risk is if we do go over the cliff, allow taxes -- that means taxes on every american will go up. every taxpayer will go up first of the year. not just on the top 2%. and somebody's going to get the blame for that. we're counting on the republicans -- americans knowing that republicans are to blame. is that the case? do you agree. 1-866-55-press. is that what the president ought to do. 1-866-55-press. one thing you ought to -- before we get back to your calls urge you to consider, particularly if you are one of those families struggling to make ends meet at the end of every month and who's not, take a look at incomeathome.com. no obligation. just check it out. they're america's leading work from home business and they're offering you an opportunity you can do. in matter your age education or experience, you can literally earn money on your own laptop from your own kitchen ta
a bill just a few months ago that prevents are the fiscal cliff by saying nobody's taxes will be increased. all of those votes we were criticized for. they called us right-wing naughts. we explained to the people of the country what we want to do to number one get our economy going on and get our economy going again. we were re-elected with a mandate, not only to be in charge of the house, but to be a line of defense against a radical administration. i think we know what our task is. if you look at r.s.c. strength, and i don't think it's ever been stronger in terms of numbers and resolve. that will be our challenge because we will be tested. because you have so many members that are coming back that have been through this fight, that have been afact for the things we fought for in the last congress, but also the candidates that got elected, over 30 candidates, all but four, paul teller tells me, all four have expressed an interest in joining r.s.c. so you got a lot of people that ran in a tough environment and got elected talking about these conservative principles that w
of the talks we've heard about the fiscal cliff, we've heard about balance and new tax revenue. but we don't hear balanced a budget. i think -- balanced budget. i think this speaks to how bad the situation is in the federal government when both parties don'tage knowledge that. as for -- don't acknowledge that. as for what's going on, just downstairs from me, speaker boehner started throwing cold water on any report that the talks were moving ahead. yes, there have been an exchange of offers. he said the last couple of days, but he said his phone call last night was a frank discussion about just how far apart they are. with 19 days left until the deadline or nine days until the end of the world, if you are look at the mine cardinal, nobody knows which way -- calendar, nobody knows which way we are headed. >> isn't this part of the we're so far apart publicly. but suddenly, they will announce miraculously they've reached a deal? >> reporter: i think for those of us here trying to cover us, it's the hardest thing to try to figure out since you are not et going the inside part of this. how muc
's talking points memo many believe the president has the upper hand in the fiscal cliff negotiations. if we gopher 00 cliff republicans think they will get most of the blame. if they give in to tax hikes conservatives believe they will infuriate their base. senator rand paul even believes that since they have such little leverage in the talks of president obama. well, republicans should just get out of the way and let the democrats raise taxes as much as they want. and then let the president take responsibility for party of high taxes. now can i understand senator paul's thinking especially given the fact that the president has already announced ahead of his mano a mano meeting can john boehner that he won't concede an inch on tax cuts. this republican defeatism news broke of jim demint's departure from the senate yesterday. is he a tea party warrior and demint is a hero to part of the g.o.p.'s 2010 midterm route. now he is off to head off a think tank the heritage foundation. let's face it the g.o.p. needs new energy. it needs branding help. heck, we have a lot of issues resolve amongst ou
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